Eight Lies RFK Jr. Told Under Oath at his New York Residency Trial Arrow

RFK Jr. spent last week in an Albany courthouse lying under oath about his spoiler candidacy. Shortly after RFK Jr. left the courtroom, his campaignsent emails that raised even more questions in the legal fight over his residency.

Below are transcriptions of the lies RFK Jr. told under oath. The full transcript of court proceedings can be found here.

RFK Jr. lied to voters by using a New York address to collect signatures to appear on the ballot despite living in California for 10 years. His wife, children, pets, and most of his personal effects are in California, where he has owned multiple properties.

Corbett: And you expressed your intention to live [in California] by purchasing a home there, correct?

Kennedy: I purchased a home there, I didn't - I never expressed a purpose to change my official residency or my intention to return ultimately to New York, which is the only question.

[…]

Corbett: All I'm stating to you is you are stating today that by purchasing those homes that did not express your intention to be a resident of California? That's your testimony?

Kennedy: Do you want a yes or no answer or do you want the truth?

Corbett: Yes or no, because it's a very simple question.

Kennedy: I can't answer that yes or no. I can answer the truth if you want it.

RFK Jr. hasn't owned property in New York since 2014, but falsely claimed that from 2014 to 2023 he rented a room on Twin Lakes Drive before being asked to leave because of his spoiler campaign.

In their testimony, the owners of the home on Twin Lakes Drive, David Michaelis and Nancy Steiner, denied being RFK Jr.'s "landlords" and that they asked him to leave over his candidacy for president.

Savino: Now, did you refer to David Michaelis and Nancy Steiner as your landlords at some point with the media?

Kennedy: Yes.

Savino: Do you believe that was an accurate description?

Kennedy: It was an accurate description. It was a description I wouldn't normally use, but because primarily they were my friends, I got the impression at that point they no longer considered themselves my friends.

[…]

Savino: Did you pay any rent to Mr. Michaelis or Ms. Steiner?

Kennedy: No.

Savino: Did they ask you to pay rent?

Kennedy: No never.

[…]

Savino: Do you remember testifying earlier today that you received a text from Nancy Steiner that you interpreted as meaning you were no longer welcome at 1 Twin Lakes Drive?

Kennedy: Yes.

Savino: Do you see that text from Mrs. Steiner in 46A and/or -B?

[…]

Kennedy: The one that I was referring to is not here. There are two here that fit that description where she says just please tell your people to keep our house out of your story and to stop calling me your landlord. That's a clear message that she's no longer my landlord.

RFK Jr. claims he transferred his address to 84 Croton Lake Rd., where he claims to have rented a bedroom from Barbara Moss. One of the only items in the room RFK Jr. could identify as his was a photo of himself and Mick Jagger.

Corbett: Mr. Kennedy, it's your allegation that your address is 84 Croton Lake Road, Katonah, New York, correct?

Kennedy: Yes.

Corbett: Did you sleep there last night?

Kennedy: No.

Corbett: Did you sleep there the night before? Did you sleep there the night before?

Kennedy: No.

Corbett: Did you sleep there three nights ago?

Kennedy: I only slept there once.

[…]

Corbett: Okay. But as you sit here today you don't know what photos - two photos you placed in the spare bedroom of Mrs. Moss's house?

Kennedy: I think one of them-I think one of them is a photo of me and Mick Jagger and the other may be a - I mean that one I can't see it clearly, all I can see is a speck.

Corbett: Understood. But you didn't place those two photos on that end stand. Did you physically put them there?

Kennedy: I don't know. I don't know.

RFK Jr. repeatedly declared the wrong addresses on the stand and in official court documents.

Corbett: Mr. Kennedy, do you see paragraph 46 of the affirmation?

Kennedy: Yes.

Corbett: What address does that maintain that you resided at?

Kennedy: It says in order to maintain my Bedford residency I moved into 2 Twin Lakes Road and this became my permanent principal residence. That's a mistake, it should read 1 Twin Lakes Road.

Corbett: So, Mr. Kennedy, my question to you is when you made the mistake and said 2 Twin Lakes Road, you're referring to the Michaelis and Steiner residence, correct?

Kennedy: Yes.

Corbett: And you now know that their residence is actually addressed as 1 Twin Lakes Road?

Kennedy: Yeah, I think I knew that at the time. It's a misprint, and I will correct it with the court.

Corbett: But you just made a mistake as to where you were residing?

Kennedy: It's a misprint and I will correct it with the Court.

Corbett: Well, Mr. Kennedy, you say it's a misprint, but your address on official documents in the State of New York as well. You've used that address many times over the years incorrectly and that in and of itself is true, correct?

Kennedy: Probably.

Corbett: And, Mr. Kennedy, you believe the address is 1 Twin Lakes Road?

Kennedy: Yes.

Corbett: Would it surprise you to know it's 1 Twin Lakes Drive?

Kennedy: It could be.

RFK Jr. lied about having a falconry license in California. When presented with the California falconry license, RFK Jr. justified the lie by saying he "occasionally" allows others to sign legal documents on his behalf.

Kennedy: I retain no licenses in the State of California or Massachusetts or any other state.

Corbett: Isn't it a fact that you have a falconry license in the State of California?

Kennedy: I've never practiced falconry in the state. I may have - I may have - I don't recall if I transferred my license when I moved there 10 years ago, but I never used the license.

[…]

Corbett: What is the document I just handed to you?

Kennedy: It's a California falconry license.

Corbett: Okay. And whose name is on this license.

Kennedy: Robert F. Kennedy, Jr.

Corbett: And what address is on this license?

Kennedy: 7055 Fernhill Drive.

Corbett: And that's in Malibu, California?

Kennedy: Yes.

Corbett: And that's the first home you and Ms. Hines purchased

together when you moved from New York?

Kennedy: Yes.

Corbett: If you look at the bottom there's a signature. See applicant's signature?

Kennedy: Yes.

Corbett: Is that your signature on this document?

Kennedy: No, it is not.

Corbett: I'm sorry, Mr. Kennedy. Applicant's signature.

Kennedy: That's not my handwriting.

Corbett: You're saying someone else signed this application on your behalf?

Kennedy: Apparently.

Corbett: And did you give someone the authority to sign this application on your behalf?

Kennedy: I don't recall.

Corbett: I'm sorry?

Kennedy: I do not recall.

Corbett: Is it a common custom of yours to allow other people to sign documents on your behalf?

Kennedy: Occasionally.

Corbett: Occasionally. So it explains, I assume, you would say that explains why your signature looks different on various different documents in this case?

Kennedy: I don't know, I would have to see the signatures.

Corbett: Okay, but, again, you have occasionally authorized others to sign legal documents on your behalf?

Kennedy: Occasionally.

RFK Jr. lied about the address listed on his New York driver's license in a sworn affidavit. He changed his registration with the Department of Motor Vehicles a day after he swore he was already registered at 84 Croton Rd.

Corbett: So, Mr. Kennedy, I just handed you a document. It's an affirmation, correct?

Kennedy: Yes.

Corbett: An affirmation that you signed, correct?

Kennedy: Yes.

[…]

Corbett: Can you read paragraph 16? It's a short one.

Kennedy: I maintain a New York driver's license and my residence is registered as 84 Croton Lake Road.

Corbett: Okay. And the date of that affirmation? It may be on the last page.

Kennedy: 7/2/2024.

[…]

Corbett: This is page 10 of Exhibit 100. This is the official records, New York State Board of Elections, as testified to by Respondent-Candidate Kennedy. […] And on that page if you look at the posted - the first posted address on that page.

Kennedy: The top one is 84 Croton Lake Road.

Corbett: Okay. And what's the date of that?

Kennedy: 7/3/2024.

Corbett: Okay. And that's when you changed your registration at 84 Croton Lake Road, correct?

Kennedy. That's what this says.

Corbett: You previously testified in an affirmation, sworn under penalties of perjury, to this court that on 7/2 you maintained a driver's registration in this state at 84 Croton Lake Road. And now that document certified from the DMV of the State of New York says you did not register at that address until July 3rd.

[…]

Corbett: You're familiar with the term perjury, yes or no, that's my question.

Kennedy: Of course I am. And -

Corbett: You answered the question. You said of course you are. The fact of the matter is you did not register from the address you claimed to reside at for purposes of running for this office until one day after you swore an oath to this Court.

Kennedy: That I didn't switch my driver's license. That's what you're saying.

Corbett: You did not register -

Kennedy: I was a resident there from May.

Corbett: Right. You registered your driver's license at 84 Croton Lake Road on July 3rd, 2024, correct?

Kennedy: Well, that's what it says. My understanding at the time was that that transfer happened a month earlier. Because my assistant did that. This is the first that I'm hearing that it was not done at that time. Because I was informed at that time and of course I had the old license so I couldn't tell the exact day.

Corbett: Right. But you've already testified and we've already acknowledged in evidence those are official transcripts from the New York State Department of Motor Vehicle, agreed?

Kennedy: I didn't have access to this.

Corbett: I'm not asking you prior. Today. We've had all testified - - we've had testimony and it's been admitted into evidence. We've had testimony and it's been admitted into evidence. Those are official records of the New York State Department of Motor Vehicles, correct?

Kennedy: Yes.

Corbett: And those records indicate you did not register from 84 Croton Lake Road until one day after you swore the affirmation in this Court, correct?

[…]

Kennedy: I didn't change my license.

Corbett: You did, okay. And if you look at the affidavit in front of you, if you could please turn to the very last page. Do you see it, last page? Is that your signature on this affidavit?

Kennedy: Yes.

Corbett: And was this signature notarized -

Kennedy: Yes, it was.

Corbett: - under penalties of perjury? That's a notary, correct?

Kennedy: Yes, it was.

Corbett: Okay. And your signature was to form this document and the County of Los Angeles, correct?

Kennedy: Yes.

Corbett: And the date this document was submitted was what date?

Kennedy: The 4th day of July.

Corbett: There you go. So isn't it a fact that on July 2nd you submitted an affirmation under penalty of perjury that said you're registered at 84 Croton Lake Road for your driver's license?

Kennedy: Yeah, but I had changed my driver's license.

Corett: And that on 7/4 you swore an affidavit for a notary stating the exact same fact?

Kennedy: That's what I believed at the time.

Corbett: Okay. Again, as an attorney we understand our signatures mean something, correct?

Kennedy: Of course.

Corbett: They mean something to the Court, correct?

Kennedy: Yeah, of course.

Corbett: And the Court takes seriously the statements in an attorney's document, correct?

Kennedy: That's what I believed at that time.

Corbett: And as officers of the Court we have an obligation to be honest and candid with the court.

Kennedy: Of course.

Corbett: So on 7/4, the day after you registered your car at 84 Croton Lake Road, you didn't find the need to advise the court that there was a mistake?

Kennedy. This is the first time that I'm hearing that there's a mistake.

Corbett: Mr. Kennedy, you are an attorney, you are well-respected. Relying on your assistant and claiming you didn't know is not going to work when you have a document that attempts to look like perjury that you signed.

RFK Jr. claimed his sister Kerry's home in Bedford Corners as his official address on his voter registration in 2016, 2018, and 2020. Kerry sold the house in 2015.

Corbett: And did there come a time where you registered to vote from your sister's residence?

Kennedy: It's possible.

Corbett: It's possible. And isn't it a fact that the last time you voted in the State of New York was in 2020?

Kennedy: 2020?

Corbett: Yes.

Kennedy: Possibly.

Corbett: Possibly. Well, we have the official record. And you're saying it's possible that you're registered to vote from your sister Kerry's house, right?

Kennedy: Is it possible that I'm still registered from -

Corbett: That's not the question. I asked have you ever been registered to vote at your sister Kerry's house?

Kennedy: I might have been.

Corbett: You might have been, okay. I'm going to refer you now to what's already been admitted. We've been through this document a few times, but not these pages. This is Petitioner's 88. This is our certified records from the New York State Board of Elections. I'm going to refer you - this is the second page of the document, okay? And I'm only referring you to the top four lines, the dates there. Just tell me when you've had a chance to look at that.

Kennedy: Yes.

Corbett: That indicates the last time you voted, correct?

Kennedy: Yes.

Corbett: And what was the year of the last time that you voted?

Kennedy: It was November 3rd, 2020.

Corbett: Excellent. And below that is the last time you voted before that. What's the date of that?

Kennedy: 2018.

Corbett: And the last time before that?

Kennedy: 2016.

[…]

Corbett: And that is your registration to vote in the State of New York, correct?

Kennedy: Yeah.

Corbett: And if you look at the date that you registered down in the right corner. Do you see the date? Do you see the date, Mr. Kennedy?

Kennedy: Yes. It says 9/30/14.

Corbett: 9/30/2014. And do you see the residence from which you registered to vote?

Kennedy: Yeah, Chestnut Ridge Road.

Corbett: 228 Chestnut Ridge Road.

Kennedy: Yeah.

Corbett: That is your sister Kerry's residence, correct?

Kennedy: Yeah.

[…]

Corbett: And you changed your registration, to not vote there anymore 2018, correct?

Kennedy: Yes.

Corbett: Your Honor, this is the deed of sale for 228 Chestnut Ridge Road a property that Mr. Kennedy has testified to that he lived in for a spell, was registered to vote from for a spell. We're going to have him look at it and then we're going to ask that it be offered into evidence. And I will give a copy to my counsel and to you as well.

Mr. Kennedy, is that not a deed from when your sister sold the property at 228 Chestnut Ridge Road?

Kennedy: Yes.

Corbett: And what is the date of that deed? Is it the 17th of November 2015?

Kennedy: That looks right.

Corbett: Mr. Kennedy, you were registered to vote and you actually voted in a primary election in 2016 and a general election in 2016 from a house that your sister no longer owned. How do you explain that?

Kennedy: I don't think it's illegal to vote - I vote in the same town and I lived in the same town at the same voting place for 40 years. I moved 13 different times in that town. I did not change my registration every time. I voted in the same voting location every time. Oh, and I don't think that's illegal. I wasn't voting more than one place, I was voting where I was supposed to be voting in the town where I lived.

Corbett: You're an attorney in the State of New York […] - correct?

Corbett: You were registered to vote in 2016 from 228 Chestnut Ridge Road, correct?

Kennedy: Correct.

Corbett: And it's your testimony here today that just because you lived in the area you could still vote in that area? That's your testimony, right?

Kennedy: Well, I don't know exactly what the law was, but I didn't think I was breaking the law at that time.

Corbett: As an attorney in the State of New York are you familiar with the term voter fraud?

Kennedy: Of course I'm -

Corbett: Yes or no?

[…]

Corbett: Are you familiar with the term voter fraud? Yes or no?

Kennedy: I'm familiar with the term. I don't know what the -that what I did was voter fraud. I don't believe that what I did was voter fraud, but I could be wrong.

Corbett: Do you know the current occupants of 228 Chestnut Ridge Road?

Kennedy: No.

Corbett: And yet when you showed up to vote in 2016 you voted from that residence. That's what those records reflect, correct?

Kennedy: I voted where I always vote. The same voting place. I signed my name, I signed my signature, I voted.

Corbett: So, Mr. Kennedy, you don't have to be held to the same standards as every other citizen in the State of New York, is that what you're saying?

Kennedy: Like I said, I've moved 13 times in that town. I haven't reregistered my driver's license and everything else every time I moved.

Corbett: Mr. Kennedy?

Kennedy: There are times I've only lived in a place for six months.

Corbett: Mr. Kennedy, with all we've said, and all due respect, you are here today testifying in open court that you never changed your voter registration when you moved; is that correct?

Kennedy: No.

[…]

Corbett: Is your testimony here today that as long as you live in the general area where you've always lived, it has no value to where the Board of Elections has you registered to vote?

Kennedy: No. My testimony here is that I never defrauded anybody.

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